
Founder Mode: Paul Gross, Founder & CEO of Remora Carbon
In this episode we talk to Paul Gross of Remora Carbon, a startup that does carbon capture right out of the exhausts of trucks and trains. Paul has a unique take on founder mode: once a quarter he decides what the three top risks to the company are, and for that quarter, those three things, whatever they are, are the main things he works on.
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π What does Remora Carbon's device actually capture from truck and train exhaust?
Carbon Capture Technology for Heavy Transportation
Remora Carbon has developed a revolutionary device that retrofits directly onto semi-trucks and locomotives to capture CO2 emissions from their exhaust systems.
Device Specifications:
- Semi-truck installation: Large box-sized unit positioned between the truck and trailer
- Locomotive installation: Entire dedicated rail car that sits behind the locomotive
- Connection method: Attaches directly to the vehicle's tailpipe or exhaust stack
- Output quality: Produces 99.9% pure, beverage-grade CO2
Technical Process:
- Exhaust capture - Device connects directly to the tailpipe or exhaust stack
- CO2 extraction - Filters and purifies carbon dioxide from the exhaust stream
- Liquefaction - Converts captured CO2 into liquid beverage-grade product
- Commercial sale - Sells purified CO2 to food and beverage companies
Market Applications:
- Food industry: Carbonation for beverages
- Beverage companies: Beer, soda, and other carbonated drinks
- Industrial uses: Dry ice production and other commercial applications
π‘ How did a college software engineer discover the CO2 shortage problem?
The Unexpected Market Discovery
Paul Gross stumbled upon a counterintuitive market opportunity while reading news articles about CO2 shortages affecting breweries - a crisis that hit close to home for a college student.
The Discovery Process:
- Initial concern: News reports about breweries unable to get enough CO2 for beer production
- Market investigation: Discovered regional CO2 shortages across the United States
- Shocking revelation: America mines 25% of its CO2 from underground sources for dry ice and beverages
- Problem identification: Transportation sector produces the largest CO2 emissions in the US
The "Aha" Moment:
- Supply-demand mismatch: High demand for CO2 products while simultaneously producing massive CO2 emissions
- Market opportunity: Pairing CO2 demand with the problem of CO2 emissions from trucks and trains
- Technical challenge: Converting waste emissions into valuable commercial product
Background Context:
- Academic major: Software engineering and data science
- No prior experience: Zero background in mechanical engineering or carbon capture
- Research approach: Built personal models and consulted academic papers to validate feasibility
π₯ How did Paul Gross find his co-founders for Remora Carbon?
Strategic Co-founder Recruitment
Paul Gross assembled a complementary founding team by identifying specific expertise gaps and reaching out to experts in those fields.
Co-founder Christina:
- Background: PhD in mobile carbon capture
- Discovery method: Paul reached out to academics while researching the technology
- Connection: Had multiple conversations and "really hit it off"
- Expertise: Provided the essential technical and scientific knowledge
Co-founder Eric:
- Background: Decade of experience as a diesel truck mechanic
- Additional skills: Built electric and hydrogen semi-trucks
- Role: Perfect mechanical engineering co-founder
- Value: Deep understanding of heavy vehicle systems and practical implementation
Team Formation Timeline:
- Late 2020: Paul identified need for technical co-founder
- Academic outreach: Connected with Christina through research conversations
- Mechanical expertise: Recruited Eric for his hands-on vehicle experience
- YC application: Applied to Y Combinator in late 2020
- Winter 2021: Completed virtual Y Combinator batch
Early Development:
- Location: Stayed in Detroit during virtual YC program
- Prototype: Built first system in Eric's garage
- Proof of concept: Demonstrated technology on a small truck
π― What is Paul Gross's unique approach to founder mode at Remora Carbon?
The Three-Risk Focus Strategy
Paul Gross has developed a distinctive founder mode approach that prioritizes deep focus over broad management across his 50-person company.
Core Philosophy:
- Quarterly assessment: Every quarter, identify the top three risks to the company
- Deep dive approach: Go extremely deep on those three risks while delegating everything else
- Resource allocation: "Conservation of time" - either go medium deep on everything or really deep on a few things
Practical Implementation:
- Risk identification: Analyze what poses the greatest threats to company success
- Total delegation: Hand off all other responsibilities to capable team members
- Deep engagement: Work directly alongside individual contributors (ICs) in high-risk areas
- Learning integration: Gain expertise to better hire for those critical areas
Real-World Example:
- Problem: Diesel exhaust aftertreatment - soot and ash from locomotives clogging carbon capture systems
- Solution approach: Paul personally learned the technology and worked with engineers
- Outcome: Solved technical challenge while building hiring expertise for that domain
Benefits of This Approach:
- Organizational insight: Working with ICs provides deep understanding of team capabilities
- Hiring improvement: Expertise gained enables better recruitment decisions
- Risk mitigation: Focuses founder energy where it's most critically needed
- Scalable delegation: Once area is solved, founder can step out and tackle next priority
βοΈ What are the risks and benefits of Paul Gross's deep-focus founder mode?
Balancing Deep Focus with Broad Oversight
Paul's aggressive approach to founder mode creates both significant advantages and potential blind spots that require careful management.
Acknowledged Risks:
- Delegation dangers: Over-delegating can lead to problems in unmonitored areas
- Attention gaps: Important issues may develop in areas receiving less founder focus
- Team dynamics: CEO presence in specific areas can create discomfort for some employees
Risk Mitigation Strategies:
- Selective monitoring: Keep an eye on all business aspects while focusing deeply on top risks
- Team assessment: Leverage phenomenal engineers who can run well-functioning areas independently
- Strategic prioritization: Focus on areas with "the most struggle, the most challenge, or the most risk"
Current Risk Portfolio:
- Technical: CO2 liquefaction system development
- Commercial: Selling CO2 to distributors and understanding market dynamics
- Regulatory: Government affairs and engaging with members of Congress
Team Response Variations:
- Generally positive: Most team members appreciate the collaborative approach
- Individual differences: Some employees more comfortable with CEO involvement than others
- Collaborative benefit: "Roll up our sleeves together" mentality when founder joins critical projects
Competitive Advantage:
- Hiring expertise: Deep knowledge enables better recruitment decisions
- Problem-solving speed: Founder-level attention accelerates resolution of critical issues
- Organizational learning: Direct IC engagement provides insights unavailable through traditional management layers
π Summary from [0:00-7:58]
Essential Insights:
- Market opportunity discovery - Paul identified the counterintuitive problem of CO2 shortages while emissions from transportation create environmental challenges
- Strategic team building - Assembled complementary co-founders with PhD-level science expertise and decade-plus mechanical experience
- Founder mode innovation - Developed a quarterly three-risk focus strategy that prioritizes deep engagement over broad management
Actionable Insights:
- Problem-solution pairing: Look for markets where waste products from one industry become valuable inputs for another
- Expertise-based hiring: Recruit co-founders who fill specific knowledge gaps rather than general business skills
- Risk-focused leadership: Identify the top three company risks each quarter and concentrate founder energy there while delegating everything else
- Deep learning approach: Work directly with individual contributors to understand problems before hiring solutions
π References from [0:00-7:58]
People Mentioned:
- Christina - Paul's co-founder with PhD in mobile carbon capture, recruited through academic outreach
- Eric - Co-founder and mechanical engineer with decade of diesel truck mechanic experience, also built electric and hydrogen semi-trucks
Companies & Products:
- Remora Carbon - Carbon capture technology company retrofitting devices onto trucks and trains
- Y Combinator - Startup accelerator where Remora participated in Winter 2021 batch
Technologies & Tools:
- Carbon capture systems - Mobile technology for extracting and purifying CO2 from vehicle exhaust
- CO2 liquefaction system - Technology for converting captured carbon dioxide into beverage-grade liquid product
- Diesel exhaust aftertreatment - Systems for cleaning soot and ash from locomotive emissions
Concepts & Frameworks:
- Founder Mode - Leadership approach focusing on deep engagement in critical areas rather than traditional delegation
- Three-risk strategy - Quarterly identification and deep focus on top three company risks
- Conservation of time - Resource allocation philosophy choosing between medium depth across all areas versus deep focus on few priorities
π― How does Paul Gross bring resources and urgency to solve company problems?
CEO Deep-Dive Approach
When Paul identifies critical risks, he leverages multiple strategic advantages to accelerate solutions:
Resource Mobilization:
- Network Access: Brings in academic experts and industry specialists to speed up problem-solving
- External Expertise: Connects teams with the right people who have solved similar challenges
- Immediate Availability: Can dedicate full attention and resources to urgent issues
Decision-Making Authority:
- Product Architecture Decisions - Makes high-level technical choices that individual engineers might hesitate to make
- Customer Experience Trade-offs - Authorizes temporary UX compromises to solve critical technical problems
- Cross-Functional Prioritization - Balances different company needs in decision-making process
Operational Intensity:
- Daily Check-ins: Establishes emergency meeting cadence for critical issues
- Obstacle Removal: Uses CEO authority to "blast more obstacles out of the way"
- Urgency Creation: Brings company-wide urgency that transforms how teams approach problems
Team Assessment:
- Evaluates whether team members genuinely want help or are being territorial
- Views territorial behavior as a negative signal for problem-solving capability
π§ How did Paul Gross evolve from delegating to deep-diving as CEO?
Leadership Philosophy Transformation
Paul's approach to CEO involvement has fundamentally shifted over the past five years:
Early Leadership Mindset:
- Delegation Focus: Initially believed he couldn't know more than his incredible engineers
- Micromanagement Fear: Was told that deep involvement equals micromanaging
- Hands-Off Approach: Felt pressure to stay at high level and avoid detailed work
The Realization Process:
- Value Recognition - Discovered he could actually help in technical areas
- Beginner's Advantage - Realized a beginner's perspective can be valuable
- Cross-Functional Insight - Understood his unique position knowing all company areas
Current Deep-Dive Benefits:
- Holistic Decision-Making: Brings different aspects of the company into technical decisions
- Fresh Perspective: Offers beginner's mind to complex engineering problems
- Company-Wide Context: Applies knowledge from multiple departments to specific challenges
Team Integration:
- Risk-Focused Communication: Team knows he always asks about top risks
- Clear Escalation: "Call in Paul if there's an issue" becomes standard protocol
- Collaborative Approach: Engineers are excited to have his resources and network
π How does Paul Gross plan to maintain founder mode as Remora scales?
Scalable Leadership Framework
Paul believes his risk-focused approach will work even at 300+ employees:
Infinite Scalability Principle:
- Universal Risk Reality: There will always be top three risks to any company
- Brutal Prioritization: Must be ruthless about what qualifies as a top risk
- Selective Engagement: Many business areas run great without CEO involvement
Strategic Focus Benefits:
- Deep Involvement Maintenance - Continues hands-on work on what matters most
- Organizational Knowledge - Learns specifics about different company parts
- Source Code Understanding - Maintains detailed knowledge of company operations
Avoiding Executive Isolation:
- Detail Preservation: Prevents being "put up at the top level" without knowing details
- Continuous Learning: Stays connected to operational realities
- Value-Added Focus: Only engages where he can add genuine value
Scalability Confidence:
- Proven Framework: Three-risk model works regardless of company size
- Adaptable Priorities: Risks change but methodology remains constant
- Sustainable Approach: Avoids CEO burnout through strategic focus
π How does Paul Gross handle age-related credibility challenges with customers?
Young CEO Customer Relations Strategy
At 28, Paul faces unique challenges when dealing with traditional industries:
Customer Demographics Reality:
- Age Gap: Often the youngest person in meetings by 30 years
- Industry Context: Deals with railroads and trucking companies with older leadership
- Credibility Concerns: Customers more skeptical than investors about his age
Preparation-Based Strategy:
- Over-Preparation: Becomes the most prepared person in every room
- Technical Mastery: Learns all terminology about customer equipment and operations
- Industry Knowledge: Studies how trucking and railroad businesses work
- Question Readiness: Ensures he can answer any question without hesitation
Credibility Protection:
- Assumption Management: Avoids confirming age-related assumptions
- Knowledge Demonstration: Uses deep preparation to overcome initial skepticism
- Professional Competence: Lets expertise speak louder than age
Investor vs. Customer Dynamics:
- Investor Advantage: Investors actually love having a young founder
- Customer Challenge: Traditional industries require more credibility building
- Congressional Appeal: Politicians appreciate young entrepreneurship
π What is Remora Carbon's next phase for scaling their technology?
Manufacturing and Deployment Strategy
Remora has moved beyond pure technology development into commercial deployment:
Current Technology Achievement:
- Efficiency Breakthrough: Built carbon capture technology that's 50% more energy efficient than competitors
- Competitive Advantage: Significant performance improvement over existing solutions
- Technology Readiness: Core innovation is complete and proven
Next Phase Priorities:
- Commercial Deployment - Moving from lab to real-world implementation
- Safety Assurance - Ensuring seamless, safe operation for customers
- Customer Integration - Making technology easy to adopt and maintain
Manufacturing Scale-Up:
- Production Scaling: Focus on manufacturing systems at commercial volume
- Quality Control: Maintaining performance standards during scale-up
- Supply Chain Management: Building reliable production capabilities
Customer-Centric Approach:
- Safety Priority: Critical importance to both customers and company
- Seamless Integration: Technology must work without disrupting customer operations
- Demonstration Phase: Proving commercial viability before full scaling
πΊπΈ How do tariffs and US manufacturing benefit Remora Carbon?
Supply Chain and Manufacturing Strategy
Remora has strategically positioned itself with US-based operations:
Tariff Impact Management:
- Minimal Disruption: Most supply chain already located in the US
- Strategic Positioning: Avoided major tariff impacts through domestic sourcing
- Supply Chain Adaptation: Found US alternative for one key Chinese supplier
Geographic Advantages:
- Michigan Operations - Manufacturing in the American Heartland
- Congressional Appeal - Politicians love domestic manufacturing story
- Supply Chain Security - Reduced dependency on international suppliers
Engineering-Production Integration Benefits:
- Fast Iteration Cycles: Engineers work directly with production teams
- Immediate Feedback: Shop floor workers can directly communicate with designers
- Quality Improvement: Real-time problem-solving between engineering and manufacturing
Operational Excellence:
- Direct Communication: "Someone out in the shop is pissed off with the engineer for their design and comes up to the engineer"
- Learning Acceleration: Much better than cross-country communication delays
- Design Optimization: Engineers get immediate feedback on manufacturability
Hardware Business Advantages:
- Cost Control: Tariffs can "completely blow up your bill of materials"
- Risk Mitigation: Domestic supply chain reduces trade war exposure
- Strategic Positioning: Benefits from both policy and operational perspectives
π Summary from [8:00-13:59]
Essential Insights:
- Resource Mobilization Strategy - Paul brings networks, urgency, and decision-making authority to solve critical company problems, while assessing team receptiveness to help
- Leadership Evolution - Transformed from delegation-focused to deep-dive approach after realizing beginner's perspective and cross-functional knowledge add unique value
- Scalable Founder Mode - Plans to maintain hands-on leadership at scale through brutal prioritization of top three company risks, avoiding executive isolation
Actionable Insights:
- Age Credibility Management: Over-prepare for customer meetings to overcome age-related skepticism through superior knowledge and industry expertise
- Manufacturing Strategy: Position supply chain domestically to avoid tariff impacts while enabling fast engineering-production iteration cycles
- Technology Scaling: Focus on commercial deployment and manufacturing scale-up after achieving 50% efficiency improvement over competitors
π References from [8:00-13:59]
People Mentioned:
- Paul Gross - 28-year-old Founder & CEO of Remora Carbon, discussing his leadership evolution and company scaling strategy
Companies & Products:
- Remora Carbon - Carbon capture technology company that captures CO2 directly from truck and train exhausts, achieving 50% better energy efficiency than competitors
Industries & Sectors:
- Railroads - Key customer segment for Remora's carbon capture technology deployment
- Trucking Companies - Primary target market for mobile carbon capture solutions
- Hardware Manufacturing - Business model requiring domestic supply chain and engineering-production integration
Geographic Locations:
- Michigan - Location of Remora's manufacturing operations in the American Heartland
- China - Former location of one key supplier, now replaced with US alternative
- United States - Primary supply chain and manufacturing base for the company
Business Concepts:
- Founder Mode - Leadership approach involving deep dives into top company risks rather than traditional delegation
- Bill of Materials - Hardware cost structure that can be significantly impacted by tariffs
- Supply Chain Localization - Strategy to reduce trade war exposure and improve engineering-manufacturing collaboration