The Most Underrated Unicorn Founder In Silicon Valley | Tuhin Srivastava

Core Principles for Success

Essential Mindset:

1. Short-term Focus - In fast-moving times, avoid roadmaps beyond 3 months as what you knew 3 months ago isn't true anymore
2. Customer Proximity - Stay very close to customers, understanding what's happening underneath rather than just listening to everything they say

Three Key Success Factors:

• Relevant Problem Selection - Choose problem areas that matter in the current landscape
• Customer Intimacy - Maintain deep understanding of customer needs and market dynamics
• Timing Discipline - Avoid scaling too early, waiting for the right moment to expand

Philosophy on Luck and Preparation:

Tuhin believes everything is fundamentally luck, but certain strategic choices and behaviors increase the probability of positive outcomes in uncertain, rapidly changing environments.

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Lessons from the Longest Format

The Test Match Analogy:

Cricket's longest format involves five days of play, eight hours daily, where outcomes can often result in draws despite massive time investment. This mirrors startup journeys where extensive grinding periods may leave you where you started.

Session-by-Session Strategy:

1. Break Down the Challenge - Approach each day like a test match session (2-hour focused periods)
2. Win More Than You Lose - Focus on accumulating small victories rather than expecting constant progress
3. Accept the Grind - Recognize that many days will feel like losses with occasional decisive victories

Nonlinear Momentum:

Just as cricket matches can swing dramatically in short periods, startups experience moments where significant progress happens quickly, carrying the company forward after long periods of apparent stagnation.

Practical Application:

The key insight is accepting that entrepreneurial journeys involve extended periods of grinding without visible progress, punctuated by breakthrough moments that justify the persistent effort.

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From Wall Street to Innovation

The Finance Experience:

• Role: Investment banker in New York focusing on private equity deals
• Specialty: Acquiring infrastructure assets like toll roads and airports
• Duration: Approximately two years starting in 2009
• Reality Check: Called his mother daily on the way home complaining about the work

Key Skills Acquired:

1. Work Ethic - Learning to work extremely hard even when not enjoying the work
2. Financial Literacy - Reading balance sheets and financial statements
3. Modeling Skills - Financial modeling capabilities (described as "very underrated skill")

The Transition:

After recognizing finance wasn't his calling, Tuhin leveraged his electrical engineering background to move to Boston for neurology research, applying early machine learning techniques (random forests, support vector machines) to track prognosis of neuromuscular diseases like ALS and DMD.

Career Evolution:

The research work eventually spun out into a Boston biotech startup, marking his entry into early-stage technology and setting the foundation for his entrepreneurial journey.

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Cultural and Structural Challenges

Historical Issues:

1. IP Obsession - Founders focus excessively on technological breakthroughs and IP protection rather than value extraction
2. Defensive Mindset - Playing defense with intellectual property instead of offensive market strategies
3. Capital Scarcity - Historical lack of available venture capital funding
4. Talent Drain - Skilled individuals leaving for other markets

Current Positive Examples:

• Suno - AI music generation company based in Boston
• Open Evidence - Boston-based company and Baseten customer

The Dilution Problem:

Boston founders are "really obsessed with dilution," prioritizing ownership percentage over company growth and value creation.

Broader Startup Wisdom:

Tuhin emphasizes that IP protection is often misguided for startups - litigation costs make IP disputes impractical, and if your only protection is intellectual property, "you're already dead." True competitive advantage comes from execution and market position, not patents.

Historical Context:

Mark Zuckerberg initially tried raising capital for Facebook in Boston (where many Sand Hill Road firms were located) but moved to the Bay Area after facing rejection, highlighting the risk-averse culture.

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Essential Insights:

1. Irrational Optimism Required - Successful founders must maintain unwavering belief in their abilities and trajectory, serving as their own biggest advocates
2. Short-term Focus in Fast Times - Avoid planning beyond 3 months in rapidly changing environments; what was true 3 months ago may no longer apply
3. Customer Proximity Over Feedback - Stay close to customers to understand underlying dynamics rather than simply following their explicit requests

Actionable Insights:

• Choose relevant problem areas that matter in the current market landscape
• Avoid scaling too early - timing discipline is crucial for sustainable growth
• Develop financial literacy and modeling skills as underrated but valuable capabilities
• Focus on value extraction from IP rather than defensive protection strategies
• Accept that entrepreneurial journeys involve grinding periods with occasional breakthrough moments

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Personal Philosophy on Risk and Wandering

Core Mindset Traits:

1. Process-oriented over outcome-driven - Comfortable doing activities without immediate results (like watching test cricket)
2. Privilege-based risk tolerance - Recognition that background provides safety net, making everything feel like potential upside
3. Irrational self-belief - Makes decisions based on "thinking he knows better" without grounding in evidence

The Reality Distortion Field Framework:

• Self-first approach: The most important reality distortion field is the one you create for yourself
• Irrational optimism requirement: Must believe in your own trajectory and abilities beyond rational assessment
• Daily reinforcement: "Wake up every morning, tell myself I'm awesome"
• Foundation principle: "Your biggest fan should be you"

Practical Applications:

• Enables career pivots from investment banking to biotech research to tech
• Allows for extended periods of ambiguity without panic
• Supports entrepreneurial ventures despite uncertain outcomes
• Creates resilience during challenging startup phases

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The Gumroad Entry Strategy

The Move to California:

• Personal motivation: Significant other in grad school on West Coast
• Strategic location: California made sense for tech career advancement
• Timing: Perfect intersection of personal and professional needs

The Cold Email That Worked:

1. Target identification: Sahil (founder who left Pinterest for Gumroad)
2. Research approach: Found TechCrunch article about $7 million funding round
3. Simple outreach: "Hey, I could probably help out with some stuff"
4. Immediate response: Direct job offer from founder

Network Effect Activation:

• Ecosystem integration: Sahil was "very much in the mix"
• Network transfer: "The mix kind of just transfers over"
• Rapid immersion: Suddenly became part of Silicon Valley startup ecosystem

Technical Role Development:

• Software engineering focus: Fraud detection, content moderation, recommendation systems
• Early-stage preference: Loved the really early stage startup environment
• Entrepreneurial preparation: Always maintained goal of starting own company

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The 4.5-Year Learning Experience

Partnership Formation:

• Co-founder recruitment: Phil, fresh PhD from University of Sydney
• Strategic hire: Tuhin recruited Phil to Gumroad first
• Timing: After one year at Gumroad, decided to start own venture
• Launch year: 2015 startup formation

Outcome Reality:

• Duration: 4.5 years of dedicated effort
• Result: "Went absolutely nowhere"
• Silver lining: "Met some great people along the way"
• Learning experience: Extended exposure to startup challenges

Ambiguity Tolerance Insight:

• Personal trait: "Too okay hanging around ambiguity"
• Pattern recognition: Similar comfort level observed in current Baseten journey
• Feedback received: Early conversations questioning direction and clarity
• Acceptance: Comfortable with uncertain paths and unclear outcomes

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The Ambiguity-Comfort Archetype

Rare Psychological Combination:

1. High self-estimation - Strong belief in personal capabilities
2. Self-critical nature - Simultaneously harsh personal evaluation
3. Discomfort tolerance - Willing to sit with uncertainty and ambiguity
4. Action resistance - Doesn't need immediate movement or clarity

Comparison with Other Founder Types:

• Typical founder preference: Clarity, action, immediate direction changes
• Standard approach: "If I don't like where I am, I just need to go make moves"
• Tuhin's approach: Comfortable sitting with discomfort without forcing action
• Shared trait: Similar psychological profile to other successful ambiguity-tolerant founders

Behavioral Manifestations:

• Extended exploration periods: Long walks around Mission, Noe Valley, SOMA
• Groundhog Day comfort: Repetitive exploration without frustration
• Patient opportunity waiting: Willing to wait for right moment rather than force timing
• Relationship-dependent work: Requires collaborative environment with trusted partners

Rarity Factor:

• Uncommon combination: Most people struggle with sustained ambiguity
• Competitive advantage: Allows for deeper exploration and better timing
• Founder differentiation: Sets apart from action-oriented, clarity-seeking entrepreneurs

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The Three Non-Negotiable Requirements

Collaborative Foundation:

• Cannot work alone: Absolute requirement for team-based environment
• Friend-based partnerships: Prefers working with close personal relationships
• Co-founder selection: Phil and Amir are two of closest friends
• Long-term relationships: Known Phil for 26 years, demonstrating deep trust

Intellectual Stimulation Needs:

• Machine learning focus: Always working in and around ML technologies
• Fast-moving field advantage: Industry moves quickly, providing constant stimulation
• Opportunity abundance: "Never like hey there's no opportunity here"
• Timing question: Focus shifts to "when will you find the opportunity?"

Capital Comfort Philosophy:

• Unique founder trait: Actually enjoys having capital available
• Contrarian approach: Unlike damage-sensitive founders who prefer lean operations
• Risk mitigation: Never experienced existential fundraising pressure
• Strategic spending: Doesn't overspend but maintains financial cushion

Happiness Formula:

Three-factor combination:

1. No short-term financial pressure
2. Working with trusted friends
3. Intellectually stimulating work environment

Result: "I'm generally quite happy" when all three conditions are met

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Essential Insights:

1. Irrational self-belief is foundational - The first reality distortion field must be for yourself, requiring daily reinforcement of personal capability
2. Ambiguity tolerance as competitive advantage - Rare ability to sit with uncertainty without forcing premature action creates better timing and deeper exploration
3. Relationship-driven success formula - Working with close friends, intellectual stimulation, and financial cushion creates optimal conditions for sustained performance

Actionable Insights:

• Build self-confidence through daily affirmations and irrational optimism about personal trajectory
• Embrace extended periods of uncertainty as exploration rather than indecision
• Prioritize working relationships with trusted partners over solo ventures
• Maintain financial runway to avoid short-term pressure that compromises long-term vision
• Seek intellectually stimulating fields that provide constant learning opportunities

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Founder Motivation and Company Building Philosophy

Core Motivational Drivers:

1. Working with exceptional people - Building teams with individuals you genuinely enjoy interacting with and can weather challenges alongside
2. Intellectual stimulation over pure business metrics - Preference for solving complex, interesting problems rather than focusing solely on business momentum
3. Having a clear point of view - Expressing a specific vision through company and product rather than constantly pivoting based on market feedback

Contrasting Approaches to Startup Building:

• Incubator/YC Model: Micro-pivot every two weeks based on market signals until finding traction
• Vision-Driven Model: Develop a strong viewpoint and project it forward to see how the world reacts

Key Philosophy on Success:

• 90% luck, 10% execution - Acknowledging that timing and circumstances play the dominant role
• Focus on interesting problems - As long as challenges remain intellectually engaging, sustained effort becomes natural
• Team chemistry as foundation - When business struggles, having interesting, fun colleagues to work with provides crucial resilience

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Strategic Evolution and Market Timing

Three Critical Success Factors:

1. Chose a relevant problem area - Focused on machine learning when it wasn't yet mainstream
2. Maintained extreme customer proximity - Stayed close to users without blindly following every request
3. Avoided premature scaling - Remained at just 17 people until Series B in 2023 (4.5 years in)

The Luck vs. Strategy Balance:

• Unpredictable trajectory: Could not have projected in 2019 that they'd become a leading AI inference company by 2025
• Right conditions alignment: Multiple factors had to align perfectly for current success
• Market wave riding: Small team size enabled quick pivots to capitalize on AI boom

Scaling Philosophy:

• Deliberate restraint: Never built large go-to-market teams early
• Market responsiveness: Small size allowed easy adaptation to ride emerging waves
• Resource efficiency: Lean operations until clear product-market fit emerged

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Ruthless Product Prioritization Strategy

The Great Product Cull of 2023:

• Original vision: Three interconnected products - model deployment, application builder, and AWS Lambda alternative
• Rapid elimination: Killed 2 out of 3 products within 6 weeks
• Survivors vs. casualties: Kept model deployment, eliminated Lambda tool and app builder

Execution Requirements:

1. Difficult stakeholder conversations - Hard discussions with investors about strategic pivots
2. Team realignment - Challenging conversations with employees working on discontinued products
3. Full commitment - Complete dedication to the remaining focus area

Competitive Advantage:

• Rare capability: Most founders struggle to kill products they've built
• Emotional detachment: Ability to separate attachment from business logic
• Speed advantage: Quick elimination enables faster movement and clearer focus
• Resource optimization: Concentrating efforts on highest-potential opportunities

Cultural Impact:

• Decision-making speed: Creates culture of rapid, data-driven choices
• Resource allocation: Ensures maximum focus on winning strategies
• Team clarity: Eliminates confusion about priorities and direction

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Strategic Positioning in the AI Stack

Infrastructure vs. Application Layer Decision:

• Application excitement: Team is genuinely more excited about the application layer potential
• Sensibility gap: Lack confidence in predicting where the app layer is heading
• Index strategy: Building infrastructure to capture value across all successful applications

Value Creation Philosophy:

1. Foundational necessity: Thriving application layer requires robust infrastructure foundation
2. Diversified exposure: Infrastructure provides exposure to entire ecosystem rather than single bet
3. Sustainable positioning: Less dependent on predicting specific application winners

Current Success Metrics:

• Powering leading companies: Supporting Bridge, OpenEvidence, Clay, Gamma, and other high-growth AI companies
• Ecosystem participation: More excited about enabling others' success than direct application building
• Compound growth: Benefits from the collective success of all customers rather than single product

Strategic Advantages:

• Risk distribution: Not dependent on single application category success
• Market timing: Less pressure to predict exact application trends
• Scalable impact: Each infrastructure improvement benefits entire customer base

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Essential Insights:

1. Founder motivation matters more than strategy - Working with great people on intellectually stimulating problems provides sustainable drive through inevitable challenges
2. Timing and luck dominate outcomes - 90% luck, 10% execution - success requires alignment of multiple unpredictable factors beyond founder control
3. Ruthless product focus accelerates growth - Ability to quickly kill underperforming initiatives (2 of 3 products in 6 weeks) creates competitive advantage through resource concentration

Actionable Insights:

• Stay extremely close to customers without blindly following every request - proximity provides market intelligence for strategic decisions
• Avoid premature scaling until clear product-market fit - Baseten remained at 17 people until Series B after 4.5 years
• Choose infrastructure over applications when uncertain about market direction - provides diversified exposure to ecosystem success rather than single product bets

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Product Development Strategy

Baseten has launched and killed four different products without ego or attachment, treating product failures as learning opportunities rather than company setbacks.

Core Philosophy:

1. Value Over Technology - The company prioritizes delivering customer value over preserving any specific technical approach
2. No Emotional Attachment - Team members don't get upset when products are discontinued; instead they analyze what went wrong
3. Rapid Decision Making - When an approach isn't working, they quickly pivot to find alternative solutions

Implementation Process:

• Objective Assessment: Regular evaluation of product performance without bias
• Team Discussion: Open conversations about why certain approaches failed
• Positive Culture: Maintaining humor and learning mindset around product failures
• Quick Pivoting: Immediate shift to new approaches when current ones prove ineffective

The philosophy stems from viewing technology as merely a means to an end, with the ultimate goal being customer value creation rather than technical achievement.

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Unconventional Business Practices

Baseten operates with several counter-intuitive business philosophies that differentiate them from typical SaaS companies.

Pricing Strategy:

1. Free Pilots - They don't charge for pilot programs, contrary to common startup advice
2. Relationship Building - Focus on proving value first, then asking customers to confirm if the solution isn't valuable
3. Deferred Monetization - Make money from customers 2-3 years later rather than immediately

Contract Philosophy:

• No Long-term Locks - Avoid binding customers with lengthy contracts
• Easy Exit Policy - If customers ask twice, they'll likely let them out of contracts
• Daily Value Proof - Believe in winning business every day rather than relying on contractual obligations
• Paper vs. Value - If only a contract is keeping a customer, that relationship won't mature well

Business Rationale:

This approach works specifically for their high-end infrastructure business model, where building trust and proving consistent value leads to stronger long-term relationships than contractual enforcement.

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Talent Management Philosophy

Baseten's approach to talent involves both being more generous with high performers and more decisive about misaligned team members.

Compensation Strategy:

1. Generous Equity Distribution - Founders should be much more generous with equity for early employees
2. Risk-Adjusted Pay - The risk differential for early employees is only 4x, not 20x, so compensation should reflect this
3. Nonlinear Rewards - People with nonlinear impact should receive nonlinear pay packages
4. Value-Based Thinking - Consider the actual value and replacement cost, not just salary bands

Talent Retention:

• Proactive Care - When good employees ask "will you take care of me?", it's irrational not to do so
• Regular Assessment - Daily, weekly, and monthly evaluation of what's best for the company
• Avoid Band Attachment - Don't get too attached to predetermined salary bands
• Consider Replacement Costs - Factor in the true cost of replacing valuable team members

Team Evolution:

• Stage-Appropriate Roles - Recognize that not everyone will be right for every stage of company growth
• Constructive Transitions - Handle team changes with kindness, grace, and constructive approach
• Executive Hiring - Especially important when hiring executives as each company stage requires different skills

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Scaling Startup Methodologies

The common theme behind Baseten's unique approaches is applying traditional startup operating principles to larger-scale operations.

Customer Relationship Scaling:

1. Quality Over Quantity - Only work with customers who truly love the product
2. Natural Selection - Let unhappy customers leave rather than forcing retention
3. Reference Quality - Happy customers become better references and drive positive net revenue retention
4. Long-term Thinking - Short-term revenue loss leads to better long-term outcomes

Compensation Philosophy Evolution:

• Exponential Risk Recognition - Early employees take exponential risk but typically receive linear compensation
• Performance Standards - Asking for 2-3 standard deviations better work quality than normal jobs
• Equity Pool Strategy - Consider allocating 30% of equity pool among first 10 employees
• Risk-Reward Alignment - Make the risk-to-reward ratio actually make sense for early team members

First Principles Approach:

The underlying methodology is being first-principled rather than following conventional startup wisdom or "how things have been done before." This involves constantly questioning established practices and optimizing for actual value creation rather than industry standards.

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Essential Insights:

1. Product Ruthlessness - Baseten has killed four products without ego, prioritizing customer value over technology attachment
2. Unconventional Business Model - They offer free pilots, avoid long-term contracts, and focus on winning business daily rather than through contractual locks
3. Generous Compensation Strategy - Early employees should receive equity reflecting their 4x (not 20x) risk premium, with nonlinear performers getting nonlinear rewards

Actionable Insights:

• Apply first-principles thinking to challenge conventional startup wisdom about pricing and contracts
• Regularly assess team fit for current company stage and handle transitions constructively
• Only retain customers who genuinely love working with you for better references and retention
• Consider allocating larger equity percentages (up to 30%) among first 10 employees to align risk-reward ratios

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Compensation Philosophy for High-Growth Companies

The Facebook Model:

1. "Redefining Excellence" Rating - Top 1-1.5% of company received this designation
2. 10x Bonus Multiplier - Both equity refresh and cash compensation were dramatically higher
3. Impact-Based Rewards - One engineer who reduced Facebook's compute costs by 17% received compensation exceeding VP-level packages

Key Design Principles:

• Backloaded Vesting Structure: More equity vests in outer years (Stripe example: 40% vests in year 5)
• Aggressive Grant Multipliers: Tied to company hitting specific metrics or valuations
• First-Principles Approach: Focus on replacement cost and what unvested equity represents as current compensation

Why This Matters:

• Incentivizes outlier performance rather than linear thinking
• Attracts people who aim high and stick around longer
• Recognizes that extraordinary contributions deserve extraordinary rewards
• Aligns individual success with company breakthrough moments

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The Compounding Effect of Long-Term Teams

Nonlinear Results from Team Cohesion:

• 2-Year Average Tenure vs 5-Year Tenure: Results are absolutely nonlinear in difference
• Trust and Communication: Implicit understanding develops that can't be manufactured
• Working Style Alignment: Teams naturally sync their approaches and methodologies

The Baseten Experience:

• 135-140 people with many of the first 20 employees still at the company
• Cultural Foundation: Early team interactions form the basis for how everyone else interacts
• Energy and Fun: People join because they see existing team members having genuine fun and energy together

The Attraction Factor:

Most people don't join companies for:

• The mission statement
• The compensation package

They join because:

• The office has incredible energy
• People genuinely seem to like each other
• There's intensity combined with enjoyment
• The team dynamic feels authentic and engaging

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Strategic Advice for Fast-Moving AI Markets

Core Philosophy:

"What you knew three months ago isn't true right now"

Practical Approach:

1. Short-Term Focus - Be pretty short-term thinking to some extent
2. 3-Month Planning Horizon - Impossible to have roadmaps beyond 3 months out
3. Customer Proximity - Stay very close to customers to know what to keep building
4. Embrace Uncertainty - Really hard to know where everything is going

Opportunity in Chaos:

• Randomness Creates Fun: When there's chaos in the system, you can just do things
• Unexpected Success: Things might work that you didn't think about
• Experimentation Time: Very exciting time to build and experiment

Avoiding Groupthink:

• Energy and Capital Abundance: Lots of energy and capital creates groupthink
• First-Principles Thinking: Look at information and be first-principled about implications
• Differentiated Building: Build against first-principles analysis rather than following trends

Recommended Framework:

• Have the north star but don't make roadmaps for more than 3 months
• Focus on one or two milestones and be ready to rejig
• Accept that detailed long-term planning isn't effective in this environment

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Sports Talk and Personal Interests

The Ashes Series Details:

• Format: Cricket series between India, Australia, and England every three years
• Location: Sydney, Australia this year
• Attendance Plans: Planning to go to Sydney test, possibly Boxing Day test

Prediction:

• Final Score: 3-1 to Australia
• England's Chances: "They don't have a chance"
• Potential Variables: Outcome might be closer if Pat Cummins doesn't play, but still likely 3-1

Context:

This lighter moment shows the personal side of the conversation, revealing shared interests in cricket between the host and guest, and providing a natural conclusion to their discussion.

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Essential Insights:

1. Nonlinear Compensation Design - Startups should reward outlier performance with dramatically higher compensation (10x bonuses) rather than linear thinking
2. Team Tenure Value - Long-term teams (5+ years average) produce nonlinear results through trust, communication, and cultural foundation that can't be manufactured
3. AI-Era Planning - In fast-moving AI markets, limit roadmaps to 3 months, embrace short-term thinking, and focus on first-principles analysis over groupthink

Actionable Insights:

• Design compensation systems with backloaded vesting and aggressive multipliers tied to company milestones
• Prioritize team retention and create conditions for genuine fun and energy in the workplace
• Accept uncertainty in AI development and focus on customer proximity rather than long-term planning
• Use chaos and randomness as opportunities for experimentation and unexpected breakthroughs

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